Computer self-diagnosed after another crash

Posted on September 2, 2013 by Oleg Volk

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The power supply is new, was replaced in July.

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10 Responses to Computer self-diagnosed after another crash

  1. RabidAlien says:
    September 2, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    Call the manufacturer. Most electronics have a 1-year warranty.

  2. imrambi says:
    September 3, 2013 at 8:49 am

    Are you using a surge protector for the computer and not a power strip?

  3. Paul Koning says:
    September 3, 2013 at 9:05 am

    Hard to imagine what this even means. I tend to be sceptical about power supply people who put fancy software in their products instead of concentrating on reliably supplying power.
    A UPS is hard to beat as a way to supply clean power to a computer. A high quality surge suppressor designed to be installed on the main breaker panel is also a useful device (in addition, not instead).

    • Sigivald says:
      September 4, 2013 at 1:46 pm

      Hard to imagine what this even means. I tend to be sceptical about power supply people who put fancy software in their products instead of concentrating on reliably supplying power.

      This is the MB BIOS, not the PSU.

      It’s really useful for the MB to detect a bad PSU and tell you about it, definitely.

  4. eriko says:
    September 3, 2013 at 11:32 am

    Get volt meter and test the output of the UPS and make sure that it is stable. Them do the same to the wall outlet. If you drier is electric have someone start it while you watch the volt meter. Do the same with the fridge. Open the door for 30 or 40 seconds and then close which should kick in the compressor. If you get much variation the house power or the UPS maybe the core issue. Older houses frequently have crappy power.

  5. Laserbait says:
    September 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    Oleg – you need to update the BIOS of that motherboard. The BIOS version that you have is 5107, but that version does not support the AMD A10-6700 CPU/APU that you’re using. The minimum BIOS version for that CPU/APU is 6002, and the latest version is 6402.

    Here is a link to the BIOS update:
    http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/F2A85M/#support_Download_30

    Here is the link to the CPU support list for the F2A85-M:
    http://www.asus.com/support/CPU/1/43/F2A85M/

    I have seen all sorts of wackyness from old BIOS’s and new CPU’s.

    • Paul Koning says:
      September 9, 2013 at 8:07 pm

      And find a new supplier/repair guy — someone who’d give you a CPU and a BIOS that doesn’t support the CPU shouldn’t get repeat business.

      This is why I prefer computers that don’t have a BIOS.

      • HSR47 says:
        September 10, 2013 at 12:53 pm

        Some form of basic input/output system (BIOS) is essential for the operation of modern computers. That being said, the BIOS system is largely a legacy technology, having been largely replaced by the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI).

        As far as BIOS/UEFI versions and processor compatibility goes, it isn’t always that big of a deal. There are several processors that the original version of my motherboard’s BIOS should support, even though they’re not listed, while there are other processors that likely require physical modification of the motherboard (shorting specific contact points) as well as a more current BIOS to function. (Largely though, this is an extreme case, arising from increased core count and changes Intel made when they moved from 45nm to 32nm)…

        Often, the fact that a piece of hardware isn’t listed as being compatible with another is due to a lack of testing, and therefore it is not an accurate reflection of actual incompatibility.

  6. HSR47 says:
    September 10, 2013 at 1:16 pm

    This type of problem isn’t unheard of; Power supplies sometimes behave in ways they’re not supposed to, but not all motherboards are especially sensitive.

    My first X58 board was well known to be on the picky side, as there were many people reporting issues with a few specific power supplies. Later on, it was demonstrated that the power supplies themselves were doing things they shouldn’t.

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