Keltec Sub2000 in .40S&W

Until Glock comes out with a .40 carbine of their own, this is the only game in town for magazine-compatible long guns to go with G22/23.

Sub2000/.40S&W

Sub2000/.40S&W

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18 Responses to Keltec Sub2000 in .40S&W

  1. perspicuity says:

    that’s some nice stock on that

  2. 2yellowdogs says:

    I have a Subbie in 9mm Glock and love it. I wasn’t aware they’re making one in chrome/stainless, though. Will this be a new model or is that one just Duracoated?

  3. Ernunnos says:

    Lone Wolf makes a Glock magazine AR lower. Significantly more expensive once you add the price of an upper from Rock River or elsewhere, but it is an option.

  4. Beaumont says:

    Personally, I don’t think the Glock carbine will ever happen. The KT is probably better than what Herr Gaston would present us with, anyway. Hey, Oleg, tell the folks in Cocoa that many of us would like a version in .45ACP.

    • Rivrdog says:

      Beaumont, I’ll stick with my Marlin Camp 45. It won’t take hi-cap magazines, just whatever fits a 1911A1, but it makes up in ruggedness what it lacks in tactical goodness. The Camp 9, OTOH, can be fed from 30-rounders or anything that will fit into a S&W Model 59.

  5. "lee n. field" says:

    “Tech Info” has no link. (I’m sure we can find it.)

    Pistol caliber carbines are something that looks like it’d be fun, but I’m never sure there’s not a better way to spend limited gun dollars.

  6. Truthsayer says:

    That’s me and my carbine in the photo. It was purchased new from a dealer late last year. The box calls that model “Sub-2K40 GLKHC Hard Chrome/Black Grip.” There’s a both a beauty and a practicality in employing this kind of modern day “Cowboy Logistics” in harder, urban environments. One full sized magazine can recharge both my carbine and pistol, should I ever have to bring them to bear. The Sub2K is a legitimate 100yd gun once you get to know it.

  7. Rolf says:

    Lee: a pistol cartridge carbine is a very reasonable home defense for some people – for example, the smaller / female shooter who only shoots occasionally, and only has a pistol-caliber-only indoor range to practice at, such as a friend of mine I’m working with. Shotguns are more effective, but heavier, lots more recoil, and there isn’t anyplace nearby to practice. A proper rifle is more expensive to buy / shoot, and again there’s the pistol-cartridge-only indoor range issue. Something like a Sub-2000, so that she can later add a concealed carry in the same round makes the most sense. An ideal one, though, would be one in .357 or 10mm, or similar cartridge which can make better use of a long barrel to get significantly more velocity.

    • Rivrdog says:

      Such as the Marlin 1894C, my cost new a few years ago was $406. A typical .357 round will gain 150 to 300 fps muzzle velocity over what it will do from a revolver barrel. Recoil is insignificant, even when shooting full loads with heavy bullets. BTW, there is a way to construct speedloaders for these carbines, which hold 11 rds of .38 and 10 of .357, but take forever to reload one round at a time. The speedloader is a tube with an ejector system, and a “foot” which fits up against a couple of cylinder-head machine screws you tap into the side of the receiver near the loading gate. One push on the ram, and your tube magazine is full in a couple of seconds. You need a quiver-like device to carry the reloader tubes in.

      • Rolf says:

        Yup, I’m familiar with those (as well as things like the MechTech Glock CCU), but at least for the specific person I’m thinking of, they are on a very tight budget, which constricts both initial purchase and practice time; feeding using standard magazines, and using a fairly standard ammo are a critical component. Not necessarily a fast reload (extended shootouts are unlikely, but the neighborhood meth-heads likely may be). A Marlin or other in .357 mag would be great, but the typical price is higher.

  8. George Hill says:

    The downside to this little KT is that they can be hard to find. Last time I looked, none of my normal distributors had any of these. Namely because they come in infrequently and in small batches and they go really quick.

  9. Rivrdog says:

    G. Hill, that is because of the way Kel-Tec runs their production line. They tool up for one or two models, and produce them continuously to a certain target, fill the “pipeline”, then stand down, re-tool, and switch to another model. After switching, they may not produce that model again for a year.

  10. Albert says:

    I think it just makes sense. Do you buy different types of toilet paper for each of your bathrooms? Of course not.. Having the same round and magazine for your rifle and your handgun is just logistical. And I think it’s an untapped market.

  11. Federalist says:

    Hey Oleg, until Kel-Tec starts ramping up production it looks like only their PR and close friends will have access to “the only game in town” Sub2000s. My dealers have been on waiting lists for those for years. Or was this post just to rub it in?

    • Oleg Volk says:

      I see plenty in local stores. No idea why it’s so hard to find them elsewhere.

      • Federalist says:

        Check out gunbroker.com. When they occasionally show up (none there now) they will typically sell around $400!

        Clearly there’s something wrong with production and/or distribution at Kel-Tec. And in the information age there’s no excuse for failing at the latter.

  12. KrinkBusta says:

    Oleg, what are the names of these local stores? No1 in the known world knows where any NIB Sub2K’s in 9mm Glock are…

    • Oleg Volk says:

      I saw one in Reloader’s Bench today but not sure if it was 9mm or .40 — call them and ask.

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