Promoting Fire Discipline: new on AllOutdoor

By training or by gun design?

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7 Responses to Promoting Fire Discipline: new on AllOutdoor

  1. mikee says:

    Where did she, or you, find the 22LR ammo?

  2. LarryArnold says:

    Disclaimer: My deer rifle is a break-action in .308, so I might have a bit of prejudice.

    When I teach a new shooter I hold the ammunition. We start out load-one-fire-one regardless of action. As the student gains competence we move up to two shots, then five shots. Usually that’s enough for a first lesson.

    As mentioned, this promotes aimed shooting. I certainly don’t want early students walking shots into the target.

    The second advantage of limiting ammo is that it teaches the student how to load and unload. Putting cartridges in a magazine, inserting the magazine, manipulating the action, clearing the firearm, all are skills the new shooter must practice to become proficient. Particularly if the student is only taking the one class, proper loading/unloading technique should be a big part of it.

  3. Will says:

    Human nature being what it is, and our no-discipline/hurry-up society today, I would prefer a single shot type rifle. The ability to keep throwing slugs downrange keeps most people from learning the basics competently.

    For instance, my two oldest sisters learned to shoot my single shot bolt rifle around age 8, taught by dad. (They may have only shot that one day, but none of us are sure about it.)

    Many years later, both of them, in separate occasions, embarrassed their boyfriends and their buddies by out-shooting them all. Neither remembered being taught to shoot by dad.

    Must admit, there are two factors at play there. Competent instruction on a weapon that discourages wasting shots. And, learning as children, with the resultant brain wiring for activities while the brain is still so plastic.

  4. Old NFO says:

    I agree with the single shot for training. And learning to take the time for each shot WILL ingrain good habits!

  5. Matt says:

    I taught my daughters on semi autos. Loading one or two rounds in a magazine is not difficult. The discipline is mental, not mechanical. You can wast shots with a single bolt as easily as with a semi auto, just not as fast.

  6. Sid says:

    I bought my son a Cricket as his first rifle. Thankfully, we has small fingers because getting bullets loaded into that rifle are a pain in the ______ for adult sized fingers. But it was/is a good rifle. Hopefully, he will teach his children to shoot with it.

    For children, I agree that a bolt action is a good platform for teaching shooting.

    For adults, maybe so.

    For soldiers, hell no. Give them the standard rifle that they will carry in combat. Teach them the fundamentals of shooting and then give them more bullets than they can carry to practice and perfect the craft.

    I loathe the idea that some bureaucrat decides what rate of fire my weapon SHOULD have based on some bean-counting expedition. Rate of fire for assault weapon must be adaptable to the actual elements of the engagement and the tactical situation. The selector lever on the M-16/M-4 is in the perfect location to allow the shooter to make the adjustment without changing sight picture.

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