The social importance of Personal Defense Weapons

11 Responses to The social importance of Personal Defense Weapons

1. Pyrotek85 says:

   December 30, 2011 at 11:31 pm

   Cool video, I would love one of those in 9×18 or 9×19. I don’t really care for the .32acp model they had most recently imported.
   • Oleg Volk says:

     December 30, 2011 at 11:33 pm

     You are in luck, Czechpoint is about to begin importing these in larger calibers.
     • Pyrotek85 says:

       December 31, 2011 at 12:09 am

       Seriously? That’s awesome, that made my night lol.
2. Weer'd Beard says:

   December 31, 2011 at 3:32 am

   I love the VZ-61 so much.

   I may have to look into jumping through the hoops to get one once Czechpoint imports one in 9×18.
3. Roadkill says:

   December 31, 2011 at 8:24 am

   This is why I’m such an advocate of the pistol caliber carbines. They can be made so light, that they’re perfect for those with less arm strength. Some interest work has been done using slow burning powders in special pistol carbine loads. Getting nearly rifle speeds out of ordinary 9x19s at normal pressures.
4. anonymous says:

   December 31, 2011 at 8:49 am

   Even without automatic fire capability, I’ve been thinking that a semi-automatic vz-61 with a shoulder stock ($200 tax), with or without a sound suppressor (another $200 tax) would make a fine home-defense weapon.

   It would be easier to aim and control than a handgun, but without the recoil or excess energy of a rifle or shotgun. Which, of course, is the whole point of the “personal defensive weapon” (PDW) class of firearms, from the M-1 Carbine to the H&K MP-5K-PDW to whatever it is you kids shoot today.

   While the defensive utility of a .32 ACP in a handgun is debatable *, the ability to rapidly put 20 rounds on target from a shoulder-fired weapon, even semi-automatically, certainly increases its utility in the role for those who, for whatever reason(s), are unable or unwilling to use more “traditional” defensive weapons.

   And that “Czechpoint is about to begin importing these in larger calibers,” whether that be 9x17mm Browning (.380 ACP) and/or 9x18mm Makarov and/or 9x19mm Luger, certainly makes a vz-61 SBR ** a very attractive option for a lot of people.

   Estimated cost:

   vz-61 pistol in .32 ACP: $400 – $600 ($400 being the low end that I’ve seen them on sale for)
   NFA tax for SBR stock: $200
   cost of stock, part: ????
   cost of stock, labor: ????

   So you’d be looking at $600 – $800 minimum to obtain a vz-61 pistol and add a stock. The costs of parts and labor, but not the tax, might be mitigated somewhat if Czechpiont sells an SBR “out-of-the-box”.

   NFA tax for sound suppressor: $200
   cost of sound suppressor: ????? in the hundreds of $

   So you’re already looking at over $1,000 for such a weapon, about 20% to 40% of which would be the NFA tax, depending on the variable costs I don’t know.

   If somebody could fill the unknown costs, I’d appreciate it.

   * .32 ACP full metal jacket rounds penetrate 13 inches to 15 inches of ballistic gelatin: http://www.goldenloki.com/ammo/gel/32acp/gel32acp.htm. This meets the FBI’s criteria of 12 inches to 18 inches of penetration.

   ** As most readers of this blog are aware, under the National Firearms Act of 1934, adding a stock to a handgun makes it a short barrel rifle (SBR), and requires a $200 tax. It’s the same law that requires a $200 tax for sound suppressors.
   • Pyrotek85 says:

     December 31, 2011 at 9:05 am

     Agreed, this is one of the weapons I’d be willing to jump through hoops for to get SBR’d and/or suppressed, provided I’m able to get it in something better than .32acp. Nothing against that caliber per se, but I already have things in 9×18 and 9×19 so I’d rather stick with what I already stock and can share with other weapons.
   • anonymous says:

     December 31, 2011 at 12:47 pm

     What’s the length of the suppressor?

     Would it make sense to produce a vz-61 carbine with at 16″ barrel and integral suppressor, rather than a pistol-length barrel with a suppressor adding additional length?
5. Sergio says:

   January 1, 2012 at 7:11 am

   Oleg, thank you very much for the beautiful videos!

   We want more videos of fine ladies shooting guns!

   🙂
6. Lyle says:

   January 2, 2012 at 1:58 pm

   I love it. Well done, Sir.

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