Sufficiently large quantity has a quality of its own

Targets at the Bullpup Shoot were steel clangers. Easy for a .223 with a 4x optic, much harder for a 5.7×28 with a 6MOA CQB red dot. The gentleman with a PS90 had a hard time hitting the targets because his reticle completely covered up the steel, especially from 180 yards out.

However, he persevered and got the hits. His carry load was one 50-round magazine in the gun and three in a mag pouch, for a total of 200 shots. I am not sure how many he fired to get all the hits, but the rapid shots definitely proved the saturation tactic effective.

Considering that this carbine was intended for close-range arguments, the ability to get hits at 300 was rather impressive. Ammo isn’t cheap but it’s cheap enough when results are needed.

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13 Responses to Sufficiently large quantity has a quality of its own

  1. Bill N. says:

    Ammunition is also difficult to get for the 5.7 x 28. I haven’t seen any online in the last month and the only ammo I have seen locally were five boxes of American Eagle FMJ.

  2. Gerry says:

    Even a .223 /5.56 does make the flash targets move all that much. That poor old target looks like it”s been abused.

    • Jeff says:

      That’s what flashers end up looking like when people spray rounds at them instead of using something you can actually aim at that distance.

  3. Adam says:

    Who makes the barrel rails?

  4. LarryArnold says:

    .223 Remington TAP: $.92
    .308 Winchester TAP: $1.38
    5.7mmX28 V-Max: $1.26
    Bullet that takes out the person shooting at you: Priceless.

  5. Ralph Seifert says:

    The rail system is an AirSoft part. It was quite flimsy as it came, so I machined up a couple bushings that fit between the rail mount and the barrel to stiffen everything up.
    As to shooting a PS90 at 300 yds:
    We were on the road for two weeks in a compact car before the shoot. I barely had room for my smallest bullpup. Couldn’t shoot the loaners ( I’m left handed ).
    I had no idea we would be shooting out to 300 yds. The dot on my Trijicon was bigger than the target.
    It was a GREAT TIME!! Sorry anyone doesn’t like my weapon/ammo choice. Maybe next year you can come and show me how it’s done.

    • LarryArnold says:

      For any target event there will be “right” guns and “wrong” guns. In real life you fight with what you have. It doesn’t hurt to practice that.

    • Gerry says:

      Don’t care about your choice in firearms Ralph.
      My point is that target shows why we don’t lend Nick our flash targets any more.

  6. Lyle says:

    No, Young Grasshopper;
    The front post or bead sight on a typical rifle with typical iron sights is at least 6 MOA and some are much larger, and yet people can shoot 1 MOA or smaller groups with them. It’s very simple in concept– you don’t zero your standard iron sights by covering the target with the bead or post, and so you don’t have to zero your dot sight that way either.

  7. Lyle says:

    The other thing about a dot sight is that, if you have two good eyes, there is no “covering” of the target because although the aiming eye may not see it, the off eye will.

    So there are several ways to look at this. Another is that if you have a 6 MOA or larger target, a 6 MOA dot subtending the whole target means you’re dead on, if you’ve zeroed your sight that way.

    Zero using the standard “POI on the top of the bead”and you’re always seeing a clear view of the POI even if you close one eye. It’s not complicated. I’ve said before that I could have you hitting your targets using my shoe as a front sight (if there were enough adjustment on the rear sight) and I hold to that assertion, or with a 20 MOA dot sight.

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