Jim and Missy visited this weekend for photos for various articles. Here’s one of Jim showing a proper stance with a Remington 700.
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You know more than me about shooting on the civilian side of things to be sure… but I really gotta disagree on that being any kind of ‘good’ stance for anything. Leaning back and no good grip on the front means unless you’re shooting .22LR, you’ve got no chance of any kind of a quick follow-up shot, especially combined with him leaning backwards like that. If I’m missing something, please correct me, but unless you plan on getting the first shot every time, I would pick a different stance.
The rifle has a serious muzzle brake, so the recoil isn’t much. He does plan on a first-shot hit…and the stance was shown in the hunting context. Full article will be out soon in print.
Tango:
I did shoot competatively for a while.
That stance works for low recoil weapons. He is resting his off elbow on his hip or belly.
A forward stance is more useful for shotgunning, for extremely high recoil weapons, or if you have a sling you can use to brace with.
The stance looks exactly like the one we were taught to use while shooting scoped .22LRs at uni…
@Tango: Do an Internet search for ‘Jim Gilliland sniper’. If, after that, you still have any doubts that he knows what he’s doing . . .
I see I’m not the only one to have picked up some milsurp ears lately…
Jim is a very accomplished army sniper with a record distance-shot in Iraq. I think he knows how to employ a rifle. On a side note, I went to infantry school with him, and he’s a good, kind, humble man too.
Yes, a major WIN on personality!
His stance makes sense. He’s supporting the rifle well.
two different photos of snipers using the same technique.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/history/marshall/military/vietnam/pictures/misc/sniper.gif
http://warriortalknews.typepad.com/.a/6a0133ec985af6970b0133f4d6f1e2970b-500wi
The second picture is called a ‘hasty sling’ and while I’m not sure but that guy looks like a jarhead and they do teach us that in the Marines. Notice he’s leaning forward and his front arm is not resting on his hip or his belly. It’s actually resting only on the sling. The first one does look like what you’re describing, though.
I never said he wasn’t an accomplished sniper, but I’ll admit I’d never heard of him. I just said it looked to be very unsteady. I’ll also put money on him never using that stance when shooting his .308 for his confirmed kill(s). I didn’t anticipate using it for very small calibers with a muzzle break, but I can see how that would work.
When I was still shooting my Enfield in the other of the German shooting associations, where I had to shoot it standing, everybody’s stance looked like that. And calibers ranged from 6.5×55 to 8x57IS. So, this IS a stance commonly employed by precision shooters shooting full-power bolt-actions.