Social service homicide

The killing at LAX was done rather inefficiently, but the sole surprise is that this hasn’t happened much sooner. Given that our side — non-government people — tends to avoid violence, this was probably squabbling among thieves escalating to a predictable end.

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20 Responses to Social service homicide

  1. thebronze says:


  2. Joe S. says:

    I don’t follow you on this one Oleg? I will grant that bad TSA employees at airports have generated problems as has said agencies administration. But the airport employees are either low skilled or of an age or ethnic group unable to find work with benefits in a less than forty hour per week position. Then factor in that the training is effectively OJT with minimum class room time and no LE certification.
    These are ramped up mall security types in a really crappy job with little hope of better. Without doubt the entire program could be revised and be admirable but it would cost many times more than now. As a retired municipal LEO I deeply regret the loss of life at LAX and the grief families are experiencing.
    Am I a government fan or advocate? No. Am I proud of much that I read pertaining to TSA? No. Do I consider it a bit insensitive and harsh to take pleasure in what has occurred with this LAX incident? Yes. Do I still believe that you have the right to your opinion as well as the freedom to express it? Yes.

    • Weston Moss says:

      Just curious, how many children would a TSA agent need to sexually assault before he’d be worthy of getting shot?

      • Y. says:

        Penalty for brief sexual assault of the kind perpetrated by TSA agents should be public whipping and or beating and afterwards perhaps exiling them to Russia, the country where everything is possible.

        And which has a declining population, they’d probably welcome even TSA agents.

      • Tam says:

        Just curious, how many children would a TSA agent need to sexually assault before he’d be worthy of getting shot?

        Even assuming your libelous statement were a fact, who decides who deserves due process of law?

        There’s a Fifth Amendment just down the page from the one you like so much. The Bill of Rights ain’t an a la carte menu.

        Stay off my side, Weston Moss, you freak.

    • Oleg Volk says:

      I don’t consider working for TSA to be evidence of guilt. I do consider it a high degree of likelihood that I wouldn’t miss them. It’s just like when petty criminals mistreat each other — the rest of us might not win but no tears would be shed. Why cry for Horst Wessel?

      • Mikee says:

        In Atlanta a few decades ago, a hospital security guard went on a rampage when he unexpectedly met his wife in the ER – with her injured, supposedly ex-boyfriend sitting next to her in the waiting room. Many shots were fired, only the boyfriend was killed, IIRC.

        Other reasons than criminality may be present in a public shooting.

  3. Y. says:

    People like the gunman are not helping anything.

    Killing random strangers who belong to an organisation you don’t like is counterproductive and a hallmark of the narcissist.

    The gunman was just another moron who couldn’t hack it and instead chose to go out in a blaze of glory.

    TSA is a gigantic bureaucratic mistake, perhaps a conspiracy, but this sort of thing is only helping them by allowing them to be seen as victims for once and giving the police state another reason to ratchet up.

    • Oleg Volk says:

      “The gunman was just another moron who couldn’t hack it and instead chose to go out in a blaze of glory. ”

      As long as the victim isn’t much better, that’s the definition of social service homicide. Twofer. The victim could have been an upstanding citizen, but how likely is that?

      • Y. says:

        It’s never simple with people.

        For example, psychopaths can be useful members of society if they believe it is in their long term interest to be prosocial. Research has shown there is a lot of people who think in such ways but are not overtly criminal. Likes of Andy McNab for one.
        See here:

        Not sure how a narcissist can be of use though, they’re only good as cult leaders, politicians, writers or various unholy combinations of those categories..

        They make their own reality and believe their own propaganda – what use can be such people?
        They defile everything they touch with their sincere lies.

  4. Russ says:

    I’m with Weston Moss. IMO, _working for TSA_ is prima facie evidence of wrong-doing. They will get no sympathy from me.

  5. Weer'd Beard says:

    As I’ve said in other locations, I deeply dislike the TSA and concur with Weston Moss, but I would like to just see them ALL in the general population of a federal prison rather than dead on a gurney.

  6. Yes, the creation and imposition of the onerous and blatantly unconstitutional U.S.A. P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act, the National Defense Authorization Act, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Transportation Safety Administration SHOULD have resulted in an armed revolt many YEARS ago, and it may still happen.

    Although “Lone Wolf” attacks are currently the most effective means of striking out against these criminal government entities, suicide assaults are not the way to carry it out.

    The harsh reality of civil war is that the killing will be carried out by neighbor against neighbor, church members against church members, and even family members against each other.

    Furthermore, because of all the division and variety of different factions combating each other in a bloody and violent general anarchy, there is no guarantee that at the conclusion of hostilities, that the type of government we desire will be successfully established.

    Maybe the tyranny and despotism will be worse than ever before.

    But, unfortunately, it must be done, at whatever the risk, if ever our unalienable rights, the old republic, and our divinely inspired Constitution of the United States of America are to be salvaged and rightfully restored.

    • Oleg Volk says:

      I do not view such attacks as a good way to tackle the problem. They would be counterproductive, which is why our side isn’t doing it. Attacks on TSA aren’t too different from the war in Libya — both sides lose and the rest of the world is ok with it.

      • Joe S. says:

        I fully agree with what you’ve stated here Oleg. Counterproductive and leads into the hands of alarmist and others who would do harm to others by protecting us to death.

      • Y. says:

        We’re not okay with it- it gives statists advocating for disarmament something to base their propaganda on.

        Libya is a different kettle of fish—

  7. Leonard says:

    This event added another proof of federal agencies’ “efficiency”. Similar to Obamacare web site requiring an army of phone support/handlers, a single amature sniper, being already detained, caused a major disturbance with total cost in $$$. The same ritual mass LEO show-up as after a campus shooting is over.

    Consider a handful of copycats, tactically ready and agitated by the witnesses’ tweets. There will be not enough law enforcement personnel to respond on this scale and perform day-to-day duties. Bank robberies not far from the visiting President’s routes (where police supports Secret Service) is a manifestation of this phenomenon.

    Hopefully, lessons learned and desire to lessen the risk of radical actions will lead to some changes, lessening the daily grief experienced by masses. But there is no Gorbachev in sight at the helm of the huge security apparatus…

  8. Leslie Bates says:

    From my perspective as a veteran combat rifleman it is very clear that the perpetrator of the shooting incident at LAX lacked the knowledge necessary to effectively use the weapon. It is as if he held the Marxist view that the mere possession of the instrument was sufficient to make effective use of it. The fact is that a trained rifleman using an AR-15 type rifle (FEH!) with a single thirty round magazine and iron sights should have been able to inflict at least twenty casualties. The basic point is that knowledge matters. And that ignorance is NOT strength.

  9. Bear says:

    @Leslie Bates: Bear in mind that the alleged shooter reportedly wasn’t just out to shoot anyone he saw. I’ve seen multiple reports that he was taking the time to ask people whether they worked for the TSA before shooting, and passed by those who said they didn’t.

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